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Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 12th, 2019, 4:17 pm
by phileefan
I was looking at the instructions for the 480/640 conversion kit and noticed there is no mention about mounting the wifi antenna for the competition cart models. Was this overlooked in the instructions? I don't even see an antenna on the newly built YS480s/YS640s competition cart models. Thanks..................

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 12th, 2019, 4:26 pm
by Yoder_Herb
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Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 12th, 2019, 4:41 pm
by phileefan
Thank you very much in advance.......

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 13th, 2019, 11:17 am
by Baldhills
I am wondering about this also.
I have the parts on the way and am trying the prepare for the install ahead of time.

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 13th, 2019, 11:51 am
by Yoder_Herb
Here are the instructions: https://www.yodersmokers.com/support/AC ... Kit_v8.pdf

Check out step 14 and step 16

The antenna is in the exact same place, but is under the comp cart after remounting the hopper.

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 13th, 2019, 6:20 pm
by phileefan
Yoder_Herb wrote:Here are the instructions: https://www.yodersmokers.com/support/AC ... Kit_v8.pdf

Check out step 14 and step 16

The antenna is in the exact same place, but is under the comp cart after remounting the hopper.


According to step 12, the competition carts don't have a fuse in this area. My fuse holder is located on the end panel to the right of the fan. Please see attached photo.

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Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 13th, 2019, 7:11 pm
by Yoder_Herb
phileefan wrote:
Yoder_Herb wrote:Here are the instructions: https://www.yodersmokers.com/support/AC ... Kit_v8.pdf

Check out step 14 and step 16

The antenna is in the exact same place, but is under the comp cart after remounting the hopper.


According to step 12, the competition carts don't have a fuse in this area. My fuse holder is located on the end panel to the right of the fan. Please see attached photo.

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The hole is there for the antenna.

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 14th, 2019, 9:45 am
by curly
Herb is right. Did my conversion yesterday. The hole in the hopper is there and is hidden by the comp cart. When you remove the hopper (to place the insulation) be careful returning it as the new antenna can get pinched. It took about three beers and 3/4 of an NFL game to complete the whole conversion. The only part that I haven't done yet is drilling for the new probe port. Need to get a new stepdown bit as I want it nice and sharp before putting a hole in my 640...

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 14th, 2019, 11:27 am
by phileefan
curly wrote:Herb is right. Did my conversion yesterday. The hole in the hopper is there and is hidden by the comp cart. When you remove the hopper (to place the insulation) be careful returning it as the new antenna can get pinched. It took about three beers and 3/4 of an NFL game to complete the whole conversion. The only part that I haven't done yet is drilling for the new probe port. Need to get a new stepdown bit as I want it nice and sharp before putting a hole in my 640...


Curly,

I understand that the hole is there, but it doesn't make much sense to me to put an antenna back behind a piece of metal when you have just as easily put in in the end panel where it's a lot more accessible and probably get better wifi signal!

So now if something goes wrong with the antenna I'm either taking the hopper off again or reaching up underneath the comp cart to gain access to the antenna. Not well thought out to me!

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 16th, 2019, 7:55 pm
by Baldhills
phileefan wrote:
curly wrote:Herb is right. Did my conversion yesterday. The hole in the hopper is there and is hidden by the comp cart. When you remove the hopper (to place the insulation) be careful returning it as the new antenna can get pinched. It took about three beers and 3/4 of an NFL game to complete the whole conversion. The only part that I haven't done yet is drilling for the new probe port. Need to get a new stepdown bit as I want it nice and sharp before putting a hole in my 640...


Curly,

I understand that the hole is there, but it doesn't make much sense to me to put an antenna back behind a piece of metal when you have just as easily put in in the end panel where it's a lot more accessible and probably get better wifi signal!

So now if something goes wrong with the antenna I'm either taking the hopper off again or reaching up underneath the comp cart to gain access to the antenna. Not well thought out to me!
That’s my concern. Hopefully the metal comp cart doesn’t effect the signal strength.

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 16th, 2019, 8:34 pm
by ttunnicliffe
Baldhills wrote:
phileefan wrote:
curly wrote:Herb is right. Did my conversion yesterday. The hole in the hopper is there and is hidden by the comp cart. When you remove the hopper (to place the insulation) be careful returning it as the new antenna can get pinched. It took about three beers and 3/4 of an NFL game to complete the whole conversion. The only part that I haven't done yet is drilling for the new probe port. Need to get a new stepdown bit as I want it nice and sharp before putting a hole in my 640...


Curly,

I understand that the hole is there, but it doesn't make much sense to me to put an antenna back behind a piece of metal when you have just as easily put in in the end panel where it's a lot more accessible and probably get better wifi signal!

So now if something goes wrong with the antenna I'm either taking the hopper off again or reaching up underneath the comp cart to gain access to the antenna. Not well thought out to me!

Amen, I agree. The WiFi on the comp cart seems like a bad design.


Absolutely, it would make no sense to mount anything Wifi surrounded by metal. There has to be a better place for it.

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 16th, 2019, 9:54 pm
by phileefan
Yeah guys, I'm not impressed with the antenna location on the comp carts for sure! My wifi is sketchy at best out where my comp cart is. HOPEFULLY this antenna location gets changed..........

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 16th, 2019, 10:12 pm
by ttunnicliffe
Does anyone have a suggestion on where else we could place the antenna? I can't mount it in the cart as I will have no signal.

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 17th, 2019, 12:45 am
by Yoder_Herb
Gents, this was tested, tested, and tested again, with great results.

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 17th, 2019, 6:53 am
by ttunnicliffe
Yoder_Herb wrote:Gents, this was tested, tested, and tested again, with great results.


Herb, I will try it today when I install it. But coming from the IT world and spending much of my time in wireless networking I question the testing. I will test the strength today with a meter from my old office and will let you know the results. There is a reason that companies place WiFi antennas on the ceilings and not inside a metal desk. Results to follow. Have a blessed day everybody!

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: October 17th, 2019, 10:00 am
by Yoder_Herb
Yes, I spent 32 years in IT myself, as a network engineer.

Re: Yoder Smokers 480/640 ACS Wi-Fi Conversion Kit

PostPosted: April 11th, 2020, 3:49 pm
by Chogers
So do I need to move my wifi antenna on the YS640 comp cart from the underneath the competition cart to the side panel where the fuse holder hole is to plug the hole?? This was not communicated properly in the directions.