The Yoder Smokers pellet cookers were designed to mimic the functionality of the Yoder Smokers offset wood pits, with the exception that the fire is managed by the digital controller, rather than the cook periodically putting wood on the fire.
The Yoder Smokers pellet cookers utilize a large offset firebox and grate, which allows for a large and efficient fire, and the flow of smoke and heat through the full length of the cooker. Because the fire is larger, and is burning wood (pellets), the changes to the fire (heat) are not instantaneous, nor will the temperature in the cooker be a flat line constant, which is caused by the fuel (pellets) added to the fire being of differing sizes and amounts for every iterative turn of the auger. So just like cooking on any offset wood pit, you manage the fire based on the average temperature over a time period.
Calibration of the ACS controller is a new function that allows you to "dial in" your cookers performance, based on your requirements. This calibration is NOT something that you do constantly, but rather something that you may do to periodically to baseline your cooker's performance. Calibration is NOT required for you cooker to function, but allows those that desire a tighter control over the performance of their cooker, to make the necessary changes to match their desired level of performance. NEVER change the calibration of the controller with food in the cooker, as calibration is a function that requires a specific set of parameters to be followed when the cooker is empty.
The new ACS controller comes with the calibration set to 0 (zero), which means that the controller will manage, and adapt, in maintaining your desired set temperature. If you desire to achieve a tighter control on the temperature management in the cooker, or want to change from the controller using physical lower grate temperature to some level of suspended air temperature, the new ACS controller allows you to calibrate this directly into the controller using the menu on the controller.
I updated my early 2012 YS640 competition cart with the ACS controller. After I installed the controller, I ran the cooker through the 2 hour factory temperature test (using the 2 built in probes and Fireboard session for data and graphs), and was well pleased with the performance of the cooker without doing any calibration at all. The cooker heats up much faster, and settles in to your set temperature much quicker that the original controller. The pellet consumption seems to be less than before (I only use BBQR's Delight pellets, so this may be different for you if you use a different brand - results may also be different using a different brand of pellets because of lower BTU consistency). There seems to be less ash left in the burn grate after running, and the residual ash seems to be finer than previously seen with the old controller, with more residual ash dropping into the firebox through the burn grate.
I decided to calibrate the controller to see how the process works and what the process does, and how it would affect the performance of the cooker. The process to calibrate is outlined below.
To calibrate the cooker, the cooking chamber needs to be cleaned to remove all residual cooking debris, grease and ash. I keep the inside of my cooking chamber pretty clean, so all I needed to do was to completely vacuum all the ash from the inside of the cooker, the firebox and the burn grate, paying attention to also vacuum the ash from the igniter tube. Once I had the cooker cleaned, I made sure that the burn grate fitment in the firebox was up to factory specs, installed the 1 piece diffuser and the lower cooking grates, and pulled the sliding damper all the way open (handle pulled out fully to the right). I then attached the 2 temperature probes to the new ACS controller, put them through the factory probe port (I had previously installed the new factory probe port in the factory location on the left side of the cooking chamber - https://www.atbbq.com/yoder-smokers-pro ... style.html) and laid the directly on the lower cooking grate with one of the probe tips at 11" and the other at 22" from the hopper wall.
Here is a follow up and some vital information.
I decided to run another the 2 hour factory temperature test, just to verify the calibration test I did was correct. I cleaned all of the residual ash from the cooker, firebox and burn grate (as I always do), and placed the temp probes back exactly as I had done for the calibration test, and started the cooker.
Here is the vital information: I neglected to change the default temperature of 350 on the controller, to my desired temperature of 250 for the 2 hour factory temperature test. After pushing the START button, I walked in the house and was getting a drink of water, when I remembered that I had neglected to change the set temp to 250 on the controller. It was between 2 and 3 minutes before I got the temperature changed from 350 to 250. WOW! The new ACS controller is very quick to heat up to the set temp, and quick to recover when the temperature is changed.
If you compare the graph from the post above, where I set the temperature on the controller to 250 as soon as I hit the START button, and the graph below, where I didn't get the temperature changed for 2 to 3 minutes, you can clearly see the difference. So, if you allow your cooker to always start up at the default 350, you have nothing to worry about. If you want to set your temperature to something other than the default of 350, make sure that you do it as quickly as possible after hitting the START button.
As you can see, the calibration that I did, pulled the controller displayed temperature, and the 2 probes on the grate, right in line with each other, for a very consistent temperature across the grate.
Thank you for posting your experiment, it's nice to know we can run a calibration if needed. I can't wait for my YS64s to ship!
Hello Herb. I'm fairly new to the Yoder family. I have been smoking meats for many years and finally decided to get a Yoder and love it. I followed your directions above doing a calibration test because I didn't think the smoker was running as hot as it should. After about an hour, i noticed the pit was running 11 degrees cooler than my one probe. I'll attach pictures. After i calibrated, +6, probe one is only a degree or two off. Probe 1 is 22" inches from the hopper wall. Probe 2 is 11" from the wall. What i can't figure out is why the two probes are 20 degrees different? Any ideas?
I tried to post my pics but apparently i don't know what I'm doing. I have a Yoder YS640S manufactured 6/19
Thanks for any help you can provide
I forgot to mention, the version is 1.0.5 and the firebird version is 0.2.38
Yoder Kurt wrote:I forgot to mention, the version is 1.0.5 and the firebird version is 0.2.38
Was Yoder Kurt's question ever answered? Calibrated a new YS640S, and all was fine except the probes read 20 degrees different. They were configured exactly as they are in Yoder _Herb's photo above, at 11 & 22. Except I have the 2 piece diffuser. Still love the machine, but I need to be able to rely upon those probes for long cooks.
norcon6 wrote:Was Yoder Kurt's question ever answered? Calibrated a new YS640S, and all was fine except the probes read 20 degrees different. They were configured exactly as they are in Yoder _Herb's photo above, at 11 & 22. Except I have the 2 piece diffuser. Still love the machine, but I need to be able to rely upon those probes for long cooks.
Don’t try and sear a steak. I ran my 640 with the new controller at 500°, the FireBoard read 650+ to 700 the whole time. I hope that the 640 pit doesn’t need to be re-siliconed. I am going to run the calibration at 250° Today and see what happens. As of right now you could say I’m pretty disappointed with the calibration, hope the 250 test changes my mind.
Just converted my YS1500 to the acs. To run the calibration test are the probes at 11 and 22 from the hopper side. Or is it different from the YS 640?
TaylanHaase1 wrote:Just converted my YS1500 to the acs. To run the calibration test are the probes at 11 and 22 from the hopper side. Or is it different from the YS 640?
norcon6 wrote:Was Yoder Kurt's question ever answered? Calibrated a new YS640S, and all was fine except the probes read 20 degrees different. They were configured exactly as they are in Yoder _Herb's photo above, at 11 & 22. Except I have the 2 piece diffuser. Still love the machine, but I need to be able to rely upon those probes for long cooks.
What are the measurements for probe location when calibrating 480
Rorkin wrote:What are the measurements for probe location when calibrating 480
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am wondering if anyone has done a calibration test on a Cimarron Skeleton? obviously the probe positions would be different. Mine is currently running with pretty significant differences across the grates.
Also be nice if the user manual was posted for download??
Ottawa Smoker wrote:am wondering if anyone has done a calibration test on a Cimarron Skeleton? obviously the probe positions would be different. Mine is currently running with pretty significant differences across the grates.
Also be nice if the user manual was posted for download??